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Old 07-14-2014, 05:16 PM
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I think where I got confused is on this link where, towards the bottom it says:

"Children are better protected the longer they can stay in each phase. Keep children in each seat up to the maximum age/weight/height limits before moving to the next phase. ALL children younger than age 13 years should ride properly restrained in the back seat."

It was my mistake for interpreting best practice as a law in this state.
Sadly, "best practice" and "law" rarely intersect down here.


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"Most states donít have a specific age for children to ride in the front seat of a vehicle, but many recommend for children to ride in the back seat as long as possible. Airbags are designed for the average adult male who weighs approximately 165 pounds. They canít provide adequate protection for children who are significantly smaller."

WTH? Many adults are lighter than 165.
Back in high school, my Journalism teacher's husband got broken ribs from the airbag when he was in a wreck. (To my knowledge, he was wearing a seat belt.) He may well have been below 165.
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Old 07-14-2014, 05:42 PM
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I'm in ga and just went to check on laws and stuff the other day at kid safe day, stinking lady said buster until 8 after that is free range in car no matter front or back seat and when I asked about high back booster vs no back she said there's no specifics just follow the seats guidelines :/
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Old 07-14-2014, 06:38 PM
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Sadly, "best practice" and "law" rarely intersect down here.
That's the sad truth.
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Old 07-15-2014, 01:50 PM
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I know that kids 12+ are legally allowed in the front seat, but that are the parameters? My oldest is a numbers kid and if I give him something to shoot for. like how much should the kid weigh and how tall before being allowed to sit in the front? He will be 12 next month. I am certain he is not big enough to sit in the front, but he wants to know WHEN he can. he is currently 70 pounds and 4'7
I go by how the seat belt fits across the shoulder/not the neck area. Your DS is about 10 pounds and 3 inches smaller then my 11 yo and I wouldn't put him in the front seat yet... he's just too small... the seat belt hits his neck. I personally am 5'3" and have to adjust most seat belts at the side panel to shift down so it lays on my shoulder and not my neck. I would say give him height of 5' - 5'1".....
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:23 AM
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The CA law is 8 years old or 4ft 9in tall to ride in the front seat, the same as requirements to legally ride without a booster seat. But they stress on the website that it's still safer to be in the backseat until age 12, it's just not the actual law.

My older DS (9) has ridden in the front seat of DH's and my dad's trucks a few times with a booster since he is still on the short side for the belt. The airbags either automatically switch off or there is a switch. But these were large full size pick-up trucks, and I felt comfortable with their driving and safety. I wouldn't allow it in a smaller vehicle or with other drivers.
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Old 07-16-2014, 11:45 PM
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My oldest is almost 14, 5'5, and 115 pounds. I still make her sit in the back!!
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:01 AM
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5'2 is the minimum height seat belts are made for.
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:43 AM
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5'2 is the minimum height seat belts are made for.
Then why did CA make the law for 4'9" for kids to ride without boosters? That doesn't make sense.
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Car seat laws don't make sense. Honestly, they don't conform to recommendations and should be stricter.
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Fwiw, seats are designed at 145cm for the belt, however most adults under 5'2 still have issues with the belt fitting properly.

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Old 07-17-2014, 12:50 PM
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Car seat laws don't make sense. Honestly, they don't conform to recommendations and should be stricter.
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Fwiw, seats are designed at 145cm for the belt, however most adults under 5'2 still have issues with the belt fitting properly.
I would have issues if the belt were not movable. I have to adjust it all the way down to fit properly. I am 5'2. He will stay in the back a while longer.
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Old 07-20-2014, 06:56 AM
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I've always told my kids 15 before they can sit up front- I think that's the age that the airbag causing injuries evens out according to a study I read a while back. However, my kids will be able to get their permits at 15 and I think they'll need to get up front sooner so they can observe driving habits from up front. Once my kids 5 step out of their boosters and start to go through puberty, I'll consider letting them ride in front in a regular basis.
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I've always told my kids 15 before they can sit up front- I think that's the age that the airbag causing injuries evens out according to a study I read a while back. However, my kids will be able to get their permits at 15 and I think they'll need to get up front sooner so they can observe driving habits from up front. Once my kids 5 step out of their boosters and start to go through puberty, I'll consider letting them ride in front in a regular basis.
We are letting him out of his booster around 12 because he does pass the 5 step and is big enough, however puberty has yet to start.
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Old 07-23-2014, 11:00 PM
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I went with "taller than me." I'm 5'2" and my kid was burly. He was an old 11 when we got there. If there'd been a law I'd have applied that, but as we were relying on logic, "bigger than mom" seemed rational.
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Old 07-23-2014, 11:31 PM
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According to "Children age 12 and under should ride in the back seat as this is the safest place to sit in a vehicle." - that's what I've always told my 9 yr-old ds... but he's bigger than your 12-year-old (4'10" and 71lbs). By 12, he'll be well over 5'2" unless he suddenly stops growing.
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My son just turned 12 today. I have occasionally put him in the front seat. BUT, that was when he was literally fighting with the child next to him and was distracting me.
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